IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF PHILADELPHIA COUNTY

                          FIRST JUDICIAL DISTRICT OF PENNSYLVANIA

                                    CIVIL TRIAL DIVISION

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                  ANGELO LAULETTA, ET AL         : MAY TERM, 1994

                      VS

                  TURCO PRODUCTS, INC ET AL    : NO  2067


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                                    ROOM 253, CITY HALL
                                 PHILADELPHIA, PENNSYLVANIA

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                                     FEBRUARY 4, 1999

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                  TESTIMONY OF HARRY HERMAN AND ROBERT CUNITZ, PHD
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                           BEFORE:  HONORABLE VICTOR J DI NUBILE

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                      GEORGE D'ANGELIS, RPR, OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER
                                    LAND TITLE BUILDING
                                    100 S BROAD STREET
                                        SECOND FLOOR
                             PHILADELPHIA, PENNSYLVANIA, 19110
                                       (215) 683-8056


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                  APPEARANCES:


                               LAW FIRM:  DEMARCO AND DEMARCO
                               BY: JAMES J DEMARCO, ESQUIRE
                               COUNSEL FOR THE PLAINTIFFS


                               BY:  PHILIP VOGLER, ESQUIRE
                                    ROBERT MANNINO, ESQUIRE
                               COUNSEL FOR TURCO PRODUCTS AND ASHLAND
                               CHEMICAL
 





                                           INDEX
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                                  DIRECT     CROSS     REDIRECT  RECROSS



                  WITNESSES:



                  HARRY HERMAN     4,17        62        79        83

                  ROBERT CUNITZ    85,98



                                          EXHIBITS
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                  NAME             JOB DESCRIPTION           PAGE

                  P-14  TURCO 5351 MSDS                      21

                  P-15  TURCO TRANSPO MSDS                   30

                  P-16  TURCO 5854 MSDS                      44

                  P-17  MSDS FOR METHYLENE CHLORIDE          45

                  P-18  MINERAL SPIRITS NON EXEMPT BY ASHLAND46

                  P-19  MSDS FOR DDM-9CLEAR                  47

                  P-20  PHOTOCOPY OF A WARNING              119
 
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         3                           THE COURT:  MR DE MARCO, YOU MAY

         4               CALL YOUR NEXT WITNESS

         5                           MR DEMARCO:  MR HARRY HERMAN

         6                           COURT CRIER:  STATE YOUR NAME

         7               SPELL YOUR LAST NAME

         8                           THE WITNESS:  HARRY HERMAN,

         9               JUNIOR

        10               H-E-R-M-A-N

        11                           COURT CRIER:  YOU DO SWEAR THAT

        12               YOU WILL ANSWER TRUTHFULLY ALL QUESTIONS PUT

        13               TO YOU TOUCHING THE MATTER NOW BEFORE THIS

        14               COURT SO HELP YOU GOD

        15                           THE WITNESS:   I DO

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        17                          (DIRECT_EXAMINATION)
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        18        BY MR DE MARCO:

        19        Q     MR HERMAN, HOW OLD ARE YOU?

        20        A     I DON'T LIKE TO THINK OF IT  I AM

        21        SIXTY-FOUR

        22        Q     WHAT IS YOUR OCCUPATION?

        23        A     I AM A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER INDUSTRIAL

        24        HYGIENIST WITH A BACKGROUND AND EXPERTISE IN
 
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         1        TOXICOLOGY

         2        Q     WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR EDUCATION?

         3        A     FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO AND THE

         4        NUCLEAR WEAPONS PROGRAM IN HOSOLEN IN NEW MEXICO

         5        Q     IS THAT AN ACTUAL EDUCATION?

         6        A     YES, COURSES IN HEALTH PHYSICS, WHICH IS THE

         7        STUDY OF THE EFFECTS OF RADIATION ON THE BODY

         8        Q     WHAT TYPE OF DEGREE DO YOU HAVE?

         9        A     MY DEGREE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO IS

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