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1 IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF OHIO
2 EASTERN DIVISION
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4 CHARLES SMITH,
5 Plaintiff,
6 VS. Case No. 1:92 CV 505
7 DEPARTMENT OF VETERAN
AFFAIRS, Judge Ann Aldrich
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Defendant.
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CONTINUED DEPOSITION OF EDGAR CARELL, M.D.
11 Monday, March 8, 1993
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13 The continued deposition of EDGAR CARELL,
14 M.D., a witness, recalled for further examination
15 by the Plaintiff under the Federal Rules of Civil
16 Procedure, taken before me, Diane M. Stevenson, a
17 Registered Professional Reporter and Notary
is Public in and for the state of Ohio, by agreement

19 of counsel, at the offices of Weisman, Goldberg
20 Weisman Co., LPA, 1600 Midland Building,
21 Cleveland, Ohio, commencing at 5:10 p.m., the day
22 and date above set forth.
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1 APPEARANCES:

2 On behalf of the Plaintiff:

3 H owa rd Mi shki nd, Esq.
Weisman, Goldberg & Weisman Co., LPA
4 1600 Midland Building
Cleveland, Ohio 44115
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6 On behalf of the Defendant:

7 William J. Kopp, Esq.
Assistant U.S. Attorneys
8 U.S. Department of Justice
1800 Bank One Center
9 600 Superior Avenue, Fast
Cleveland, Ohio 44114
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Diane M. Stevenson, RPR, CM
Morse, Gantverg & Hodge

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1 MR. MISHKIND: Let's go back on

2 the record. I suppose the record should reflect

3 that we are continuing with Dr. Carell's

4 deposition, which was suspended several weeks ago

5 because the doctor did not have a copy of the

6 Veteran's Administration medical records on

7 Charles Smith.

8 Tn the interim, the records have been sent

9 to the doctor, and T am told by the doctor before

10 we started on the record that he has received the

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12 Dr. Carell, I just remind you that you are

13 still under oath. You do recognize that, even

14 though the court reporter is not in your

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16 THE WTTNESS: Yes, I do.

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Diane M. Stevenson, RPP, CM
Morse, Gantverg & Hodge

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1 EDGAR CARELL, M.D.

2 A witness, recalled for further examination by

3 the Plaintiff, under the Rules, having been

4 previously duly sworn, as hereinafter certified,

5 was examined and testified as follows:

6 CROSS-EXAMTNATTON

7 BY MR.  MISHKIND:

8 Q. When we adjourned last time, I think we had

9 started to talk about Mr. Smith. I want to

10 divert for a moment or two and ask you some

11 general questions, and then we will get right

12 back into Mr. Smith's treatment.

13 When you were in your residency at the

14 Veteran's Administration Medical Center back in

15 April of 1990, under whose direction were you

16 fulfilling your residency requirements?

17 A. The chief of medicine was Dr. Adel Mahoud.  He

18 'was my chief.

19 Q. How is that spelled?

20 A. A 1) F L .

2 1 Q - And the last na-me is?

2 2 A . I believe it is M A 11 0 U D.

23 Q. Was this your third year of your medical

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25 A. Yes, 4t Was.

Diane M. Stevenson, RPR, CM
Morse, Gantverg & Hodge

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1 Q Doctor, have you publ i shed any art i cle s in any

2 medical journals?

3 A. I have not.

4 Q. Have you submitted any articles for publication?

5 A. I have.

6 Q. What publications have you submitted to?

7 A. Cardiology journals.

8 Q - How many articles are in submission?

9 A. Currently, one.

10 Q. What does that focus on?

11 A. Heart failure.

12 O. What journal did you submit to?

13 A. Chest.

14 Q. You are in a fellowship now; is that correct?

15 A. Yes.

16 Q. Is that a one-year fellowship?

17 A. It is a three-year fellowship. I am in the third

18 year.

19 Q. Are you Board certified in any discipline at this

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21 A. Internal medicine.

22 Q. When were you Board certified, Doctor?

23 A. The date was--the exam was September of 1990--I

24 am sorry, 1991. iio, I am sorry, it is September

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Diane M. Stevenson, RPR, CM
Morse, Gantverg &- Fodge

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1 Q. T am sure we established this before, but since 1

2 don't have my notes with me, the facility that

3 you are in your fellowship at in Pittsburgh, what

4 is the name of that?

5 A I am currently at Presbyterian University

6 Hospital of Pittsburgh.

7 Q. When you were in your third year of your

8 residency in April of 1990, how much of your time

9 at that juncture were you spending over at the

10 Veteran's Administration?

11 A. Tt was approximately three to four months each

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